NPC Buffer

Sterling, will you please roll a sws and bd wait around to buff me?

I think everyone that has answered this post is missing the point of this change, this change was implimented to encourage more teamwork and active play styles and classes. As far as your comment disstress, iv noticed how many of you seem to always point fingers at Sterling when changes are made, that you disagree with. May i remind you that all staff is involved with these decisions and there is alot in the background to this server that many of you don't see.

Reno

You are kinda wrong here.
Only team work is betwen tanks-dmg dealers-healers. Buffer classes are just buff bots.
With the npc buff change you just forced us to make more buffers. And for some of us that already have bd/sws/ee forced us to use buff bots with these 3 chars also.

For Freya , Zaken or Tiat buffers have no use to be played as active players , they just make the group be weaker. Taking a buffer in pty means 1 less dmg dealer in party , meaning we would kill the RB slower.

There is actually 0 (zero) teamwork in farming when it comes to active buffers and dmg dealears. The only thing a buffer can do while the dmg dealer kills things is to practice his cheerleading skills.
Same thing goes for pvp. Certain classes are usefull in mass pvp and could be played by ppl no matter if the npc buffer has full buffs or not.
Players dont need to see the npc buffer without cov , zerk dance ect ect  just to play an active suport class. Thats just some lame excuse the so called complainers used in their discussion with the gms.

P.S. in case you would like to mention doomcryer and his buff... why would we use a DC when a party could use 2 ST's for perma SoS?

When the NPC buffer was created we didn't take into consideration that it would be eliminating the need for certain classes.

Ehm, removing some songs/dances won't encourge anyone to play BD/SWS, becuase: a) You didn't remove all of them, most of removed were not really important (maybe vampiric, renewal etc.), but becuase few were important people will box them b) They last for 60 minutes, so should I share my exp/drop with some useless BD/SWS (yes useless) or just buff myself for 1 hour.

We understand that at first people will dislike the change, but we are trying to look at the bigger picture here.

In short term you will get a bunch of boxing bd/sws and really really 0% more real bd/sws, becuase this change is incomplete solution to this. Nobody would play bd/sws as main just to give clan 1 or 2 more dances/songs. If you really want to give people reason to play support classes, set everything retail-like (remove NPC buffer, reset buff-time), but then server will die in 1 week.
Server buff setup is always one of the main reasons whether to play on the server or not, people playing here mostly want NPC buffs, otherwise they would have never come here. I'm really concerned about server future.

The only picture I see for the future is the dead server for now, yes ofcourse staff is helping us with a  lot of changes and updates and we appreciate that. BUT this change has been not considered carefully, I'd rather play in the server with npcs we had before in our server than in a server retai like.. But now I am thinking that I dont want to play anymore.. I played here for almost 1 year and I chose this place because it had nice npc buffer and retail-like features. There were only +-80 people online when I started but still I didnt quit because of that.. Now we have 600 players , 200 of them offline shops , 200 bots for buffs.. Now I need to play with full party in order to buff my self so whats the point of that.. People in clan already lost their mood to farm.. And it has only way to solve this problem faster than staff, leave the server and go for search for another. Because players who admired server's staff confronted a nasty "prank".  If we had song/dance time 2 minutes then those classes would be valuable but now you are just forcing people to leave,  or suffer those who has all the buffs and works as a npc buffer for clan mates and server, I am the second case... And plus one thing so why leave prp,se buffs in npc buffer, this discriminates people with those classes... Yea you might answer," if you dont like buff time we can decrease the time" like you responded about the mass sweep skill. Come on guys nobody does like that....

I dont think changing npc buffer can help server in a positive way. I`ve seen all posts in this topic and i didnt see any player that likes or agree this change. I know we dont have power to change but atleast ask us for this major changes cause it will affect all of us including L2 Vanir`s staff. Im on this server for 2months plus , playing every day more then 5hrs straight and i enjoyed farming/raiding/pvping untill now when i have to load up more boxes in order to buff my self even for a simple spoiling session. Fix it maybe or try to find a middle way for this problem...

Atleast they could have asked us indeed... Make a voting or something. Now because of one or two complainers all people suffers. Astor, they already made middle way solution by removing few of the songs and dances. But those changes are not satisfying us.