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Why did I get a perm chat ban?

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Why did I get a perm chat ban?

I would like to know why my character recived a permanent chat ban. This is unprofessional and reeks of favoritism and corrupt GMs.

 

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Re: Why did I get a perm chat ban?

I would prefer this to be answered by Ignis in public, rather than by one of the GMs from "that clan" that are responsible. 

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Re: Why did I get a perm chat ban?

I'm really tired of all this, there are no corrupt GMs here. And there is no way to chat ban permantently.
If you got chat ban is because you were rude or you were defamatory as you are being now.

We have fantastic friendly GMs that work a lot and I know that are not corrupt, mostly because they can't at all, but also I checked almost all their actions and they only help you and try keep the harmony (try because thanks to some users its very difficult).

Additionaly I would like to say what rights your GMs have:

  • They can teleport themselves to players, to catch bots or support players. But they cannot spawn players.
  • They can paralize players, its very useful to catch bots.
  • They can chatban, jail and ban.
  • They cannot give damage, items, skills to other players.
  • They cannot spy the chat of other ppl or see their inventory.
  • They cannot do a lot of things, almost nothing.

If someone want to ask about what they can do just ask but read the first 3 points avobe and you will get the answer.

Remember that there is a rule for all this:

Spreading rumors or defaming a member of the L2Vanir staff is a punishable offence. If you witness abnormal behavior from any of our staff, please contact the server admin or another GM that may be online.

Best regards.

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Re: Why did I get a perm chat ban?

Defamation—is the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual.

Please elaborate on how I provided false information in my post. Are you even aware of why my character got chat banned? I would also like information on how anything I have typed, thus far, as being rude. 

Everything I have typed into this thread is reasonable and I believe to be factually accurate. 

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Re: Why did I get a perm chat ban?

I didn't say what you said, I guessed what I thought that you probably said. I don't know what you said because I wasn't there and we don't log the chats.

What I know is you said in this post that GMs reeks of favoritism and corruption. I think that was at least rude, and in my opinion was defaming since you blame GMs of favoritism and corruption. Is what I understood.

Could you tell me why do you say that? I really would like to know why do you think GMs are corrupt. This acusation is very serious and could be a defamation.

I checked it and you were banned for 120 minutes for Stereling. I wasnt there so you can't expect that I know what happened, you must talk or ask to Stereling and will tell you why.

Sorry if I missunderstood something.

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Re: Why did I get a perm chat ban?

This exemplifies why I am now going to take a sabbatical from L2Vanir. You have no checks and balances on chat bans. In a game where organized communication is key, a chat ban is a severe handicap. When there is no one held accountable, the element of a fair game is skewed. 

The first straw was disappearing flags during TW. The next was finding out what clan the GMs were in. The third was seeing those GM's main characters speaking openly and negatively in shout about other clans. The final straw has been the recent rash of chat bans given to my clanmates and the lack of chat bans given to theirs. 

I really like the server that you have built, Ignis. I really think that it can last in the long run, but these items are deal breakers for me. I hope to return in a few months to find a different culture. 

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Re: Why did I get a perm chat ban?

Sad to see you go, friend! This should ring the alarm for you, Ignis.

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Re: Why did I get a perm chat ban?

No, I think you don't understand. GMs do his job very well and if you shout in public something that you shouldn't you have a big chance to get a chat ban. Don't go to the forums or to me to complain after that, be nice and use the general chat with caution.

This will never change and it shouldn't.

Regards.

EDIT: disstress, I've sent you an answer to your PM 3 days ago, please read it: http://www.l2vanir.com/messages

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Re: Why did I get a perm chat ban?

I find the gm/moderators to be very tolerant of people every day. Immediately upon login system message displays rules for english in globals. How often is this followed or enforced? Rarely. You/I can't blame mods/gm's for punishing rule breakers and i think chat ban is a slap on the wrist. Voice comm is always superior to chat anyway although i HATE sitting in ventrilo/ts/skype as I'm busy and a parent so I'm away from my pc randomly even while logged in. Loar this is by no means trying to single you out here, just an observation I myself have made within the 9 days I've been here. GM/Mods are not picking on anyone by choice I'd say but it has to be frustrating trying to moderate when people can't even follow easy rules like english only global, showing no respect or sportsmanship, and generally acting like an ass. It's still a game guys, and people need to treat it as such.

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Re: Why did I get a perm chat ban?

I merged my brothers account into my own.  This is a 2013 post made by him.  I was chat ban for 2 minutes once.