Clans

Agreed completely, this is an exploit, and a very cheap and dirty way to accomplish anything. I wouldnt be proud of achieving something, by involving this technique.

Totally agree on this one. Joining a defending clan while you're actually in an attacking one.. Means you know you can't win it the normal and fair way. Joining a defending clan shows not strong enough and pathethic enough, people will play dirty. A penalty for leaving + being kicked should result in a penalty for joining another one.

Zilko, I see where you are going with this... it's ok( Lithuenne and Damien Dark too). The next time you use the word fair, do a google search on it and after understanding it's meanings (it might have a few) do not move a Wards in the castle (to move them u need an alt clan, and that its a bit of an exploit :P ) and play as your "enemies" should... fair.
This post should of been made (i think) to make grieffing of items from clan owners to be reduced to a minimum, by limiting the players movement trough clans as freely as they can at the moment, you make it harder or at least a bit unpleasent to remain without a clan for 24h untill joining another one just to ask for adena or items. I support this ideea, and I support this thread.
Digging a bit deeper in this ideea, in my opinion the clans shouldn't have to recieve a 24h cooldown after dismissing  clan member, before invinting another player. I will not add any more personal taughts to this thread for it is only an ideea or a suggestion.
Good day.

I agree too. With this modification, an active clan may migrate to an inactive in an hour, or a castle / clan hall / etc can change ownership in minutes.
Indeed, this is worst mod than introducing mana potions in grocery shop.

We, except all other reasons, play in Vanir because its a continuing pve/pvp server with retail characteristics. Thats why we ask for turn this modification back to retail status.
 

Then how did u attack? :) Damien...

Exactly. We moved wards a bit further, so they are not directly in visibility range, but still, within walls of the castle. We didnt make them untargetable, unkillable, and any other way immovable. Having ppl that reg at defending clans side, but come in and work in same party/group with attackers is way, way , way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different thing. So, please, cut the crap.

Lithuenne, u must be WuTang, just a guess. Nice to meet u, on forum i mean.
By the time we attacked and u saw the healers ware in another clan, some of Astale people moved to another clan and could attack them with no problem(unimaginable). And i knew that Astale will move wards, and I did it mainly to show you, I too can play dirty. There is no "this is waaaay" different because u are not allowed (talking about fairness) to move wards. Dont tell me they ware in castle walls, excuses, you are not allowed as a defenfing clan to move the wards. simple. You cheated, and I cheated, but I have the balls to admit it. :)
Oh no wait... this "We moved wards a bit further, so they are not directly in visibility range, but still, within walls of the castle." hahahahahaha let me try it.  Aaa-HMMM!  "We moved healers in a friendly clan, so they are not directly in targetable side, but still, within the walls of the server."
"Did i attack any of your healers ?" Ax, how could I know that? I think I didnt express myself good enough, repharse: "Then how did Astale manage to kill the untargetable healers?"